Response To ctime post "It's not lucylin dumping fake tokens on exchanges"

in blurt •  2 years ago  (edited)

This post dissects the post by ctime on his defense of Lucylin, using the strawman position of Lucylin not having any direct correlation in the price drop because he

Never had any significant amount of stake to cause any major shift in price. This includes in the descriptive used by ctime so called fake stake which will be the main focus of my post momentarily. Of course he never had any significant amount of the so called fake stake as he didn't have any significant stake when Blurt forked from Steem, and has never accumulated a major amount here to cause such a shift.

NO ONE WAS SUGGESTING he had any resources of value to cause the drop in value through that method. Those type of actions are performed by those closer to your level of financial means, not his. For Pete's sake, the man barely can keep his bowl filled with rice from using the tool megadrive and Jacob created and maintain. Of course he doesn't affect the price in that way, no one suggested he did. That was a horrible strawman to use in your incessant need to try attacking the token ownership that thwarts your full control of this chain.

This is a straw man, especially given that the argument was one on his continuous barrage of shit talking, always being shot up to the top of trending based on the votes by ctime and his other accounts.

However, lucylin isn't the focus of this post directly.

It's more about this false idea of fake tokens.

I'm gonna just come out and say it.

(POT) Ctime meet Kettle (Founders).

I was curious after the post straw manning a defense of lucylin as a subterfuge to attack the foundation (the obvious real reason Lucy gets such great support from him) about the so called fake tokens.

First though, lets define what these fake tokens are.

They are all of the tokens created and dispersed at the creation/fork of Blurt.

Those who came up with the idea to fork a new direction for the chain from Steem, who took upon themselves the following

  • The parameters of the fork which entailed not porting over all posts without author permission as Hive did shortly after

  • NO DOWNVOTE THEFT. Your stake claim remains valid and can't be invalidated due to someone with more stake having a beef.

  • No fake reputation system controlled by the largest wallets. Just like in life, your rep is dependent on the views of the individuals you interact with.

  • The equipment necessary to run the main node once these changes in code were installed.

  • The front end that to date has been the only constant front end that has stayed running. We've had several alternatives come and go.

  • The programming costs associated with fixing problems as well as installing hardforks.

I could probably list more, but that's enough to make my upcoming point.

So in the genesis of making this chain, and getting it listed on a couple of exchanges which added GREAT VALUE and wasn't easy to do, they gave themselves more of these so called fake tokens. Doing so ensured a couple of things for them.

  • Help defray costs of maintaining the equipment and connections to keep the chain alive and functioning.

  • Defray future costs of programmer help and such.

Keep in mind, at this point there still is zero demand for a chain. They have invested their real time money and energy with no certainty there will be any users or investors. Using their own reputations and skills we have reached this point where they have now done what most can't.

Have a working chain and a couple of listings after fixing the initial flaws they saw as inherent in the mother and soon to be sister chain.

Now, let's get back to those so called fake tokens ctime is always whining about (I suspect because they stand in his way of fully controlling this chain).

As I mentioned above, ctime is the pot calling the kettle black. Let me demonstrate why.

I used ecosynthesizer to go back to the beginning of the chain. And found that one of the very first posts voted by megadrive at 100% voting power used 422,546,640 rshares on this post on 07/06/2020.

megadrive rshares.png

https://ecosynthesizer.com/blurt/@cryptopie/i-really-wanted-for-a-covid-cure-to-get-developed-now-but-is-it-possible

Out of curiosity I looked at one of the first votes by ctime. It was made on 07/05/2020. at 100% vote Ctime used/had 2,419,736,320 rshares.

https://ecosynthesizer.com/blurt/@cristo/macro-photography-fotografia-macro

ctime rshares.png

Now I couldn't find at this point any investment made and incoming into the ctime wallet before this vote, so these appear to be fake tokens being used by him on these early votes.

His wallet holding then a little over half the amount of so called fake tokens that megadrives wallet held.

I need to clarify, I don't personally consider these to be fake tokens. I'm using the terminology of ctime so I can show how disingenuous he is being. Let me explain.

I notice the only so called fake tokens he has issue with are the ones standing between himself and his full control of the chain. I tried asking when he first was attempting to take over the chain with that 07/07 regent nonsense brought to us from another power tripping ex whale why he didn't just fork his own chain if he was unhappy with this one.

Of course he couldn't come out and say he didn't have the expertise or patience to jump through all the obstacles the Blurt founders did, nor get the exchange listings. That this one looked ripe for a hostile takeover now that the founders had done all the hard work.

I ask everyone to notice that he has no issue with any of the other so called fake tokens airdropped at the genesis moment. Especially not his own which equaled a little more than half of megadrives personal airdrop.

In other words, he outplayed himself for those with eyes to see that it was never about so called fake tokens or he would have made his hill to die on include ALL of the so called fake tokens including the ones he himself was awarded.

But no, the only ones worth crying about are the founders that stand in his way of buying a premade chain with exchange listings.

Probably keeps him up some having what he thought was going to be certain victory snatched away when Jacob stepped back in momentarily and dealt with him in the language he understood.

Since then, we have all noticed that if one wishes to get the fat votes like Lucy does, one continues to press the foundation with the most ludicrous fabrications of injury.

OMG they censoring muh free speech.

Then the crowd of maroons who just literally read the not censored speech vote and wring their hands in despair and anger at all the imaginary censorship taking place.

OMG these people I keep insulting while pretending to be some holy master psychologist against any who don't bow to my narrative grow tired of me.

Then the small crowd of maroons gasp in outrage that the folks who are the days focus for trolling don't care for it.

OMG you guys, I'm just gonna build my own thang, you can all join and we are going to make more money than this place. AND I'll double down on posting here so we can use the money earned here to fund the new place, not because the new place won't earn more money though and fund itself.

The small crowd of maroons applaud and rush forward with time and in some cases monetary assistance as they continue using this so called deeply flawed tool to help in the funding of the so called better way.

This shit is so obvious it is laughable.

No, lucylin DID NOT dump so called fake tokens and cause the drop in price.

The price drop is merely the reflection of how Blurt economics work.

There is usually a few hundred dollars in volume daily, and at times 50.00 is enough to create a major swing in the days value.

Once ctime stopped buying (you were an idiot if you thought he was going to buy every single day and prop up the price to artificial values) the price returned to where the demand level really exists.

STOP BLAMING THE FOUNDATION.

Their refusal to hand over all of their hard work to the guy with deep pockets who funds so much of this fud has nothing to do with the value dropping.

It's simple economics.

If only a few hundred dollars is spent daily on Blurt, you are insane if you think that is enough demand to drive Blurt to the moon.

Do you even get with such low volume how easily Blurt value can be manipulated up and down like a yo-yo? I'll let you imagine the ramifications of that if anyone you know with deep pockets appear to have an axe to grind with anyone standing in their way of a hostile takeover.

What has been laughable is watching the small crowd of useful puppets defy the proof their own eyes provide and rush to hook themselves to the anger/outrage train that appears will never reach its final destination. Preferring to keep riding it as they get their small payouts rather than getting off because they dislike the ride as they feign outrage for the spectators.

I keep reading the phrase here virtue signaling as an attack.

How about we come up with another phrase for the so called victims who refuse to get off the horrible train ride they are on.

Karen signaling. Yes, the non stop karen signalers. Ready to target the next person who appreciates the work the foundation has done, the resources it has spent and continues to spend. Demanding one submit to the side of the parasite who continues probing for that final crack that allows them to fully take over the host body.

My advice for the schemers who lay traps to try taking over what others build.

DON'T BE SO OBVIOUS.

OMG you guys, look at all that fake tokens the folks who did everything hold. No wait, don't look at mine or anyone elses, just look at theirs. Theirs is the only tokens standing in my way, all the other "fake" tokens are good tokens.

Especially my own "fake" tokens

Give me a f****** break.

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  ·  2 years ago (edited)

Thank you for voicing the thought process going on in my head so eloquently. It really makes no sense what this crowd is arguing. It is clear they are using all this FUD to profit and if they are truly unhappy with their investment they should only blame themselves because little has actually changed in terms of the code of blurt from when they decided to come in.

Once again deep pockets in the crypto world do not equal deep thoughts or business acumen. Seems like they are just good at making noise.

I relaxed on my accusation that this whole thing was an attack hoping that peace would prevail but it is still ongoing. This is still an attack on the chain using the social tools made available by the chain. If one of these whales actually bought enough tokens to take over the chain I don't think anyone would have a problem with that because we would all see a value from our own tokens even the foundation. But this is a dirty way to try to take over the chain by first rubbishing peoples work and their investment in real money and time.


Posted from https://blurtlatam.com

It's really getting absurd at this point. I think it's time to stop ignoring and call out the bullshit.

Thanks for stopping by and sharing you see it too.

Yeah maybe they should look for investments which their big mouth will not spoil. Hope the new work and direction are going well for you.


Posted from https://blurtlatam.com

It took sometime to read this long write up by you but it was very much worth it. Thank you for this deep explanation, i hope everyone reads this and understands reality.

Thank you.


....You're giving me far more credit than I deserve...



Posted from https://blurtlatam.com

You're a pathetic pimp, a likely narcissist and severely unequipped to even form and express a cogent thought, anyone who thinks otherwise I ask to leave anything you said as a rebuttal. Last time I only ridiculed you with a toddler for the moronic nonhought notion that ignorance is evil, and since you've been reduced to silence. The most hilarious part, you promised in your psychotic "apology" post that you won't even read comments, and previously you promised that you'll vacate this place soon, over a month ago. Fuck off with your jab at someone's dignity, you made money from cocksucking, and you clearly don't give a fuck about "selling your soul" you faceless feckle.

Why stop? I've heard that prostitution is a well-paying job


Posted from https://blurtlatam.com

Keep pimping lucylin out, he doesn't mind playing the role.

lolol....well, having been in the escort business in the west end (many moons ago...as a couple with my ex- girlfriend)...I can assure you it's - by far - the highest paying job that I've ever known...lol.

*Selling your soul DOES seem to come cheap though, nowadays......
Not even the escorting job was ever paying that high an amount , for me to even contemplate that one ..


Posted from https://blurtlatam.com

After pressing your scummy self for years about suspecting you of being a douchebag pimp, you can't help but boast about it.

Give me a f****** break.

initblurt or socialgraph? 50M (now much more, maybe 70 millions of fake tokens) and total control over the chain ?

Let's not talk about it?



Posted from https://blurtlatam.com

yeah I adressed that in one comment lastly to baah, but it seems to be questions that are not welcome !
But hey I don´t give a s... on it, there is something wrong here and its not only from the side of some guys who invested huge portions of BLURT and aren´t the founders ;)

@lifeasure

But this is a dirty way to try to take over the chain by first rubbishing peoples work and their investment in real money and time.

even when @megadrive states here in the post that he never get something out of it instead of headache !?, there is votes from the like he calls it "fake stake what is needed to maintain the balance" yes for sure so that the founders can control the direction !
That´s not totally wrong, but where is the difference to those who aren´t able to maintain the direction of their invest how little it may be, they don´t have a fake stake what is voting in their favour, and you can´t tell me that´s not true.
And regarding that "fake-stake" what should hold the balance theire was done witness votes, there was done upvote for the founding members and the rest of the steering crew, and I never saw a vote from there to "a normal user who isn´t related to them" !?

So if that should keep up the balance, the wording balance did get a complete new sense, that´s not balancing that´s influencing to just one side !
If the "fake stake" would also be used to upvote normal users with maybe a curating team this would help a lot of folks here to built more confidence and at least will bring the Founders and their beloved ones also more profit.
But hey the founders also have to understand that they had made mistakes, when not talking to the crowd (their content creators, all the users who pay for every single transaction sometimes more than they get back, what the hell ist that ? Yes I call it a loss you´re investing more than you get out, so now ask yourself who profits in every transaction ???) they should name a number what payed for the servicing crew and maybe for the founders, but don´t argue that they are from third world countries and therefor are underpayed because in the western states it will be payed better !
That´s bullshit, you will not be payed in the Western world better if you´re not doing your job right, in this case you will get fired the next day.
And the minimum wage in the western states isn´t in all higher than 1k USD that´s again bullshit @megadrive, here in Spain its at 650€ that´s 651 USD, in Germany its round about 800€ so 801 USD, don´t talk about things you don´t know nothing about you are comparing apples with pears ;)
And I will tell you what, if I had developpers in my team that talks so rude to people here on the chain when they complain some real existing issues, the have been gone the next day or can´t talk to "clients or customers (what the content-creators are in real)" anymore because they destroy the their own hard work and the "invested" time of the founders, they can talk in a closed forum just for the Devs and the rest of the crew but not to the content-creators if tehy can´t behave them self and going aggressive every time the post here to questions !

So the founders own interest must be to get better and more content here on their BABY, and the easiest way to do so is a curation team what has 1, 2, 3, 5, 10 or even more millions of Blurt-power to vote this good content to hold these content creators here, that´s the way not sitting there and telling us we had to buy the coins now because they are damned cheap, they can give a better reason and still profiting more than anybody else when their stake (including the Fake Stake) will go up again, why nobody of them is seeing that as an oportunity.
Leadership is something more than getting payed after year 2 back in total of your invest (in time and money) that´s only in 1 out of 1000 cases !
The first 3 to 5 years is in most of the cases negativ, that´s the normal way it works, there is no guarranty for the "we all be rich tomorrow" mantra .


Posted from https://blurtlatam.com

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I rebuked your FUD, and @practicalthought rebuked yours and others hand wringing fake outrage, so the only question that remains is if you don't believe in this place, if you think anyone owes you or anyone else any explanation or response for your stupid and insulting questions directed at them, why are you still here, other than to spread shit?

You start insulting again for no reason, just because you don't like my way of thinking is not a good enough reason to go back to gutter language.
Look at the answer Megadrive gave me, it's so easy to see through and it didn't work not in theory and not in practice, so what?!
To answer your question, because I'm not being rude, I'm still here because I like some of the stuff here apart from your tone and the narrow mindedness with which you brush away anything that isn't your opinion.
And I'm still here because there are some people here that I've known a lot longer than I've known you and that I respect, I don't think you can do anything about that, can you?


Posted from https://blurtlatam.com

What's insulting about my response? Is it insulting to refer to stupidity and moronic nonhought questions as such? Or would you prefer I lie to you? What's narrow minded about what I said, and I brushed what away exactly? I answered your questions despite the stupidity they are premised on. You can be here to spread FUD AND to mingle with your friends, the two aren't exclusive to one another, this entire thread is about how FUD is being spread by ctime who's seemingly part of the lucylin fud Crew, and I don't see anything but fud coming from that crew.

My tone like my intention is impossible to know or discern, so I suggest you assume I said everything in the sweetest grandma voice with the intent of squashing fud. If you think this place is a scam, then leave, your fake concerns are exposed by the preface in your own comment:

But hey I don´t give a s... on it

If that were only true. BTW, shit is a word, not any worse than cunt, faggot, nigger, kike, or all other "bad" words and if you're offended by such words, then frankly you should stay off the internet, the one place where tone isn't policed and bad words aren't precluded from conversation, unless you like to mince your words like all faggots.

My tone like my intention is impossible to know or discern, so I suggest you assume I said everything in the sweetest grandma voice with the intent of squashing fud. If you think this place is a scam, then leave, your fake concerns are exposed by the preface in your own comment:

Absolute gold.

I estimate there is roughly 50 mill Blurt held by founders. At current prices this comes roughly to a valuation of 165000.00

How much do we estimate they have spent on servers, developers, exchange listings and other miscellaneous fees in the OVER two years they have created and run this blockchain. I'm guessing more than that, and this is not even acknowledging they haven't cashed that out so I'm leaning towards their out of pocket expenses are actually more than what they hold in current value. I believe it was @world-travel-pro who figured that it would take many years to recoup ones investment if they 100% self voted.

What's with you dumping so much Blurt daily yet lying and saying the founders are? If the screenshots of your activity on Hive engine in this comment section are correct, at that exchange alone you sold more than 25k in one day. How much are you selling on the other exchanges daily. If that is an average at just Hive engine that would equate out to 175k Blurt weekly at just the one exchange. I assume you might be buying low selling high at the exchanges, creating large sell walls to send desperate hands into your lower buy walls that you can resell at higher prices. Doing any wash trading to aid that structure? This is ok, and your business. But when you lie and try to say the founders are constantly cashing out when they aren't you open yourself to such examination. It appears on the surface you are the one doing what you accuse innocent folks of doing.

Just saying.

It was mentioned in your zeal to be vindictive you are purposely sabotaging the DAO with the return vote. I'm guessing it is due to vindictiveness because you didn't get to buy the ready made chain with exchange listings as you had originally hoped. Going to make sure to make Blurt be as inefficient as you can while rewarding all attacks regardless of how ludicrous they are? I think for those of us who see how manipulative and vindictive you are we can feel blessed that despite your efforts to create FUD and manipulate every aspect you can that you failed in your bid to take control.

I laughed when you made the comment to Lucy loosely insinuating I'm prostituting. I'm guessing it looks that way to you because in your world you don't develop bonds with others, you view others as useful tools. So you reward those who will be your prostitute such as with this FUD rewarding you do regardless of how ludicrous the FUD is. You view the world through the eyes of a John. It must be hard for you to comprehend when others display loyalty because the recipient earns it, as you are used to paying others to align with you. Shady folks got a shady lens.

More folks are seeing you, despite the reluctance many have to relinquish those fat votes you give. I wrote this post to give them a better image to view you from. Your votes aren't worth the damage you cause here, your desire to force submission of this chain to your control demanding you go scorched earth in every conceivable way you have at your disposal.

You don't fool me. I see through your finger pointing and babbling.

The only thing I don't know is if you were really caught unaware that the founders did what all the other founders did and gave themselves extra tokens at inception. I entertain that although it is unlikely an investor of your caliber it seems unlikely. Did you really think you could just waltz right in here and take control?

A masterful explanation. I hope that those involved can give their arguments and present their ideas peacefully. I think this should be the goal


Posted from https://blurtlatam.com

Thank you. I don't see this being resolved. One can't negotiate when the side doing the attacking demands all or nothing as we see here. Sometimes you just got to tell the other party to f*** off.

Thanks for your thoughtful post - some points you might like to consider:

1- Every chain has a certain amount of so-called "fake tokens", from Satoshi (BTC) to IOHK (Cardano), Osmosis Foundation, Ethereum foundation, actually I'm hard pressed to think of a token or blockchain that doesn't have a Core Team or Founders allocation, the technology is there, if anyone wants to be king of their own chain, go ahead and launch their own chain, don't FUD all over someone elses, if they don't have the technical ability at least they should help out and not FUD their own bags, which is not financially rational.

The fact is individuals won't put up their own money to list on exchanges like we have done or to hire app devs, run rpc servers etc.

2- You made an important point

I notice the only so called fake tokens he has issue with are the ones standing between himself and his full control of the chain.

The DAO is already jammed with the whale voting up the return proposal so no devs can get proposals through, not even the Ecosynthesizer team can't be paid for critical services like the block explorer and joinblurt signup app.

Proof of Stake is cool when you have a fairly flat whale structure, but when you have a centralised whale the "fake stake" is needed to maintain balance.

3- There is a narrative being pushed that Blurt Core is driving prices down, you can see that main members, Jacob, saboin and myself don't power down, I haven't looked into the rest nor should I especially if their monthly take is only 25K BP, also all team and adhoc devs are paid in Power Ups rather than liquid.

Here is an interesting trade history that was given to me today, see who the real sellers are...the FUD is just a diversion to hide the real truth.

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hehe @megadrive that´s again the thing with the apples and the pears !

@ctime is selling 16,6k on 1 day, and richarde is selling nearly 7-fold that in a week with his powerdown, so one is powering down and another has liquid coins which he is selling, what is worse ?
Everyone would expect the one with the liquid coins to sell or by more, but memeber of the inner circle who sucked the most from the pott (and don´t say it isn´t or wasn´t that way) are powering down 33,33% of their stake what sign is that ???


Posted from https://blurtlatam.com

@rycharde does a fair bit of market making he sells and buys back. As he does for BYT too, @rycharde is welcome to comment. Also he has been honourable enough to request his Core team pay reduced by 50k pm, from two months ago since Saboin and I have been more active, if he was a pure profiteer he wouldn’t have asked that.

Rycharde’s mathematic skills cannot be replaced, we are lucky to have him, some of the economic parameters are extremely tricky to navigate, especially how one change can effect another.

well I don´t check the numbers from rychard one by one, but even if he has bought every single blurt coin back doesn´t really make sense, and if he is the magic math guy you mentioned then he should know that,you need more money to push the price up after bringing it down before, and the last 7 days we have lost 11,4 % in value in Blurt so this action might not be the action of an genius in math to rescue the price of BLURT.
What about the Fake-account why not use this one for these methods ???
That would be much more effective, with an x-fold portion but still it will not generate much more coins coming back versus the amount of coins leaving before.


Posted from https://blurtlatam.com

well I don´t check the numbers from rychard one by one

This reminded me of that SNL skit on Bill Oreilly from years ago

Thank you for adding this to the post.

I appreciate the information being made public on the effort to block any proposals from the DAO. I hope those who read this post understand the impact of this, and more importantly why such an action would be taken as they add it to the FUD posts that are heavily rewarded by this whale.

I also wish to make note that I suspect that the amount of Blurt that has been called fake tokens by the FUD maker is probably valued much less than the actual money spent on this chain. Let alone account for all of the hours spent coding and networking. I hope again those reading this understand this has probably from a financial position been one of a loss for those of you who founded Blurt. Even for some of the core members who have received stake in compensation, stake which is a fraction of what a coder would receive in the free market for their highly coveted skills.

I notice that more folks are beginning to understand the woe is me crowd and who is funding it. I hope that my last two posts now will help in dispelling the obviously ludicrous positions being bandied about.

I find most interesting is your sharing what I assume are screenshots of selling activity taking place I assume on Hive engine. Makes one wonder how much selling activity he has on the other exchanges as well.

Well within his rights as everyone is free to buy and sell as they see fit. But certainly is a valid topic since he brings it up in trying to make everyone blame the foundation in the flood of tokens on the markets.

I'm sure it was just an oversight on his part when he has tried to cast this picture it is all due to the Foundation members dumping. 🤔

Especially since some of his stake is also from this own so called "fake" stake.

But was probably an oversight of his and he forgot to demand that his fake stake be burned as he finds the idea repugnant to his high moral ground. 🙄

Yeah 100% I myself am on a time cost deficit on Blurt, only thing I’ve earned so far by co-launching a chain is headaches 😀

Devs and leadership are being paid like $1000 worth of tokens per month as opposed to market fiat salaries of $10k+ per month in western job markets, let that sink in with the FUDDERS. Min wage is more than this, with less headache, our team would be better off financially picking fruit. 😂

only thing I’ve earned so far by co-launching a chain is headaches 😀

Min wage is more than this, with less headache, our team would be better off financially picking fruit.

To funny. While laughing because of the way you presented it, I hope everyone reads this and understands this valid truth. One side (foundation) is sacrificing, the other side is demanding everything.

Thank you for this article firstly, since I have been confused so many times over this matter... I'm new, so it has been difficult to understand and confusing as fuck for the most part... Big thank you to everyone else who has commented with Truth & Clarity which has been hard to find in past few month's.


Posted from https://blurtlatam.com

Glad it offered some insight for you.

Well explained.

It's 3:13 AM here and it took me 5 minutes to read this and it is time well spent.

I'll write a post or a comment when I find some free time in the morning.

I think it's easy for someone who knows the story from the beginning to read and understand this whole thing. It took me much longer because I had to read slowly to understand and learn.

This publication is spectacular in the way of explaining all this matter.


Posted from https://blurtlatam.com

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FakeUntilNeeded🤬
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🥓GiveMeAFakingBreak

Yes, that is exactly what the mute button is for. As for supporting free speech, I replied to that thought here a little while ago.

https://blurt.blog/blurt/@practicalthought/ri9shd

I honestly Highly regards your Works
Any interest in SkypinG-Tea sometime?

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I've got an Opportunity
Or Probably a Proposal


Who knows ? 🥓

Agreed. Have a nice day !


Posted from https://blurtlatam.com

Good evening


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Posted from https://blurtlatam.com

I appreciate your high regard for me.

I don't do the skype thing (nor most other things like fakebook/twitter/discord) and due to the nature of what I used to blog about have made it a point not to make offline connections with anyone from the blockchain.

I appreciate your interest however, and am honored you had me in mind.

So it's My opportunity then ✋


Proposal Revelation to follow 🙏

The times a changing has been happening throughout my entire life. I could sense it as a child.

It's speeding up now as those who control the world languages (spell-ing) are purposely finishing their self fulfilled prophecies. Aided so much by the installed programs so many of us have that they designed.

So it's My opportunity then

Perhaps if you share it openly here others might also run with it.

He shared his phone number with me in an encrypted memo back on hive, if the SHTF I might open a line to @frankbacon, I have my compound in Texas and I'm sure it will be imperative to join up or at least make contact. I think the only state that will fight the US will be Texas, they have their own air force, maybe Kentucky and Florida but they aren't equipped. I tried to reach out to garden of eden because they abandoned over 100k worth of hive, I'm thinking of hitting them up again, maybe they'll start on here. They left because of the flagging and never powdered down.