A reply to @practicalthought...WTF !!...You trying straw man-esque arguments with me?...where the fuck has your brain gone ?

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Here's the thread from yesterday.....
https://blurtlatam.com/blurtfunny/@lucylin/if-you-think-sophistry-is-a-selling-point-i-ve-got-some-very-bad-news-for-you

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I reply in parts ....if it comes across in a very very condescending tone, you're reading the context correctly.

Lets get straight into into, shall we...?

@praticalthought...

You could be a gracious winner and be content knowing that you remain uncensored despite doubling down on pushing the buttons instead of pretending you are being censored.

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WARNING! warning ! - straw man alert straw man alert !

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You could be a gracious winner..

I HAVE 'WON' NOTHING...

IT'S...NOT...ABOUT...ME !

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..It never has been..and I've only written about that very point for, I dunno - maybe 200 times !

It's about freedom to communicate and the shift from the comments sections once being the public square, to now being a space that is controlled by other people.

Making it about ME , is a straw-man argument ; a logical fallacy ; a sign of stupidity (or desperation) to try and bolstering a weak argument or position by using TACTICS of misdirection - rather than addressing the point at hand, WHICH IS .....

....THE PRINCIPAL OF FREE SPEECH IN THE PUBLIC FORUM....

...'choose your poison' as to the motivations behind the straw-manning argument - my position stays exactly the same.

I am the messenger - NOT the message.

The subject is about freedom to communicate in the public forum.

NOT ME.

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If you were being censored your days of pushing buttons would have been stopped.

But I AM being censored - In a the public square that no longer exists.
...one that did until a few weeks ago...

Let's keep it simple for you.

....One upon a time there was public square, where people were free to come and debate.

Then, one day, the rulers of the city decided that there was no public square anymore, because they didn't like what was being said in it ...

I do hope that's not too technical for you.

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The word try(ing) denotes failure. Notice how you used that multiple places in connection with him and his intentions?

You say it as though it's something to be grateful for...Seriously ?

I WOULD HAVE BEEN USHERED OFF ONTO THE COAL LIST- OR HAD MY ACCOUNT FROZEN - IF MEGADRIVE HAD HIS CHOICE.

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AND YOU WANT ME TO FEEL 'GRATEFUL' FOR THAT, SOME WAY ?...

.....GRATEFUL THAT I HAVEN'T BEEN CENSORED OFF A PLATFORM - ONE IN WHICH I PUT MORE WORK AND EFFORT INTO, TO PRODUCING CONTENT SUPERIOR THAN 90% OF THE MEDIOCRE, POOR QUALITY, ' COUPLE OF PHOTO', LOW EFFORT POSTS .... ?

...SERIOUSLY....????

I should now feel grateful for that privilege?..
STOCKHOLM SYNDROME, ANYONE ? lol...smh....

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Was the failure due to his lacking the ability, or did it fail due to his reconsideration of his mindset at the moment and understanding it would be harmful to move forward? I think it clear it was the latter.

No, it failed because people with more brain cells than him (not difficult to find), disagreed with, and could see - the idiocy that he openly displayed to the world.

...he was then 'really clever'

....(oh, the irony) ....by getting around his thwarted efforts to silence me - by using the new mute function button to essentially achieve the same ends...
no nasty, wasty, debate in the public fowum....

THE ACTION RESULTED IN A RESTRICTION OF FREE SPEECH (when compared to the Blurt blogging platform model ever since it's very inception !).
Think... about.... it.

'Censorship by tiptoe' is more effective than one big action - but ANYTHING that is implemented in any way to reduce a free speech that was offered before...IS A TIPTOE 'IN THE CENSORSHIP DIRECTION'...
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(SECOND COMMENT)...

I think you are in a minority here in the belief there isn't freedom of speech here.

What's your point ?.....that majority consensus means it's 'correct' all of a sudden ?.....(where have your brain cells gone, matey?)
I wonder if Galileo would have had the same reception on here when he posited the heliocentric model - against the overwhelming vatican consensus...he got marginalized and put under house arrest.

Not because he was wrong - but because the stupid majority couldn't handle the truth...

My intellectual position stays the same.

My philosophical argument remains the same.

This is because I am philosophically - and intellectually - correct.

You were once intelligent enough to know the difference between bullshit gas lighting - and the cold hard truth.
I think you still are, but - for some bizarre reason - decide to try and defend the indefensible ...
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As I mentioned and even made a meme of, you are proof one is free to say what they want, even towards the very folks running the structure that started and keeps this all going forward.

I'm NOT free to say what I want in the public forum any longer- because the new rules have taken away the public forum.

You can try and dress it up however you like , it doesn't make it less cringe worthy - especially coming from yourself (of all people).

As I said, I would use you as my poster child for free speech in his shoes. You are definitive proof freedom of speech exists here.

Ok, please tell me just how is it, that I still have free speech on the comments pages - that WAS the public forum - but isn't any longer...

Can't wait for the mental gymnastics that'll be needed on this one...

Keep it simple - because it is very simple.... or try to bullshit using word salads and a conundrum of postmodern-esque , mental gymnastics - it makes no difference - the answer will ALWAYS come out the same.
1+1 =2.

....how SCARED LITTLE libtards, will try anything - just to avoid reality...
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How I would have liked to have been active in Blurt since its inception to know perfectly what is happening. Every time I try to keep track of these types of articles (I really want to understand) I get mentally exhausted. Maybe I don't like confrontation and prefer to take things in peace or I'm not so critical because I don't have the experience of so many users here or on other platforms.

But if I would like to ask something: The public square where they used to say whatever they wanted... Is it some channel on Discord? Because if it's the comments section, in all honesty (and forgive my ignorance if I'm wrong) I keep reading that they write what they want to communicate, and the comments on this post prove it.

Unless censorship is about not letting me write what I want on someone else's post, I don't see what else it could be about.


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Our lord and savior megadrive will save us.

Made for interesting reading. Thank you.

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IN OTHER BREAKING NEWS:

LUCYLIN LIVES IN BAAH'S HEAD RENT FREE !
...baah spends his entire life finding out that @lucylin once believed in father Christmas, so that 48 years later he can use this information to finally win an argument and not look like an idiot...

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bless...


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LUCYLIN LIVES IN BAAH'S HEAD RENT FREE !
...baah spends his entire life finding out that @lucylin once believed in father Christmas, so that 48 years later he can use this information to finally win an argument and not look like an idiot...

It's called having a good recollection.

To your self absorbed and deluded mind, you think I'm obsessed with you. Meanwhile, how many more posts and comments are you going to author on my behalf?


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You continue to be guided by the idea that one day, if you are not careful, you will no longer be able to comment or talk to others on official or high-traffic channels.

Well, that can happen. Nothing is certain. If it happens, you will have to deal with it. But you really don't seem to have a clue that you have an active part in casting doubts if what you consider speaking freely is actually overburden this term as a free ticket.

You seem to me like someone who lovingly sets up his own isolation room, picks out the words on the door sign "An outcast lives here!", throws the door key out of the window and then thinks it is only others who keep the door shut.

I'm sure there are some would like to see you muzzled. I myself often enough think that you should shut up and that you are one of the biggest idiots I have came into contact online.

I dislike you, I find many of your statements are utter bullshit. Sometime though, I find a pearl in what you say. So it goes. I cannot stand you and at the same time, I can understand you.

Would I like to muzzle you, would I like others to take care of you being a nuisance? No. I think that is something where you have a point. If someone is not able to say that you are an asshole at times, then he might want to take the indirect route and make someone acting it out for him.

You are not surrounded by saints. And you are not a saint. Yet that seems to be exactly your expectation. That saints will behave saintly towards provocations, lamentations and jibes.

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When i read a post and have no idea what to say, sometimes i just post a cryptic picture and hope everyone thinks it provides deep insights they are too dim to comprehend...

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I actually quite like that pic but i need to edit it more... it seems to say cock in the top right hand corner...


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I thought it said kook so maybe my mind isn't as dirty as it used to be, that or i shoulda gone to specsavers


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It seems to be a random bug in one of the filters I'm using...odd! - KOCK I now think


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loloolol - it does indeed ! lol


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Free speech and censorship are on opposite sides of a continuum. In theory, nowhere offers absolute free speech, and nowhere is completely censored in every possible way, cutting off all expression and communication. Everywhere (including Blurt) is somewhere in the middle. This confuses black-and-white thinkers.

I agree with you that censorship exists on Blurt. Claiming it does not is ignorance of the above fact.

How bad it actually is, we could discuss and debate that - and indeed have done so in past threads.

But as far as I can see, your mic drop is deserved, because you are not claiming there is 100% censorship, while your debate-partner is suggesting we operate under 0% censorship here - categorically incorrect.

In regards to the "sovereign blog" thing, I haven't seen it in action yet, but I remain ideologically unhappy with it. You're right, there's no proper town square anymore, and Blurt has taken on a different feel with that change.

Can you demonstrate any kind of censorship on the blockchain? If you can't demonstrate any kind of censorship, how or why do you suggest that censorship exists on the blockchain?


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You're right, there's no proper town square anymore, and Blurt has taken on a different feel with that change

...the inevitable consequence of - the ripple effect - of increased censorship rules...
You don't have to be Tesla to workout what happens when more censorship is introduced...just look at 6 gazillion efforts in the past, as reference - they all turn out the same way.

Which then begs the question - _If the new rules were not aimed at me specifically* _ - How dim are the people that implement these rules ?...

i.e - to not understand anything of any historical precedents that show censorship is never good for any ecosystems success...

*(I think they were aimed at me, personally - a 'man child vendetta' with mega drive being all butt hurt)...

because you are not claiming there is 100% censorship,

Correct - I'm saying that any move in a direction that increases the restrictions of free speech (on a blogging platform that uses it it as it's main selling point...lol)...is a move in the wrong direction....


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No censorship exist.


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Where is that again?


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Where else?


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